I still retain Brian's 32 Victory. It's been done for a while. Since I had it, I decided to do some more pellet, projectile testing with the Victory format.

The Victory is a Pistol. Not a stub nosed .38" ... but it's not a bench rifle, or a sporter. So; it's a pistol. With the outrigger it makes a great little carbine. The barrel is about 13" inside. Even so, with it's default slug, this little gun makes over 80 foot pounds. Not bad for a BB gun. When I started making airguns, the biggest baddest big bore rifles were making about that energy.



It's been raining here, for years. Finally got a good day yesterday. Today was more chilly, and very gusty. Not the best day for the range, but relatively better than all Winter, so I loaded up the War Wagon with "stuff", and went to the range.



Starting out, I verified that the gun liked buckshot @ 30 yards, which is typical pistol yardage. The buckshot I have, is courtesy of Tony, who tracked down a new manufacturer when Hornady ceased making O buckshot. The product is not as spherical, but did a good job.





Then I moved out to rifle range. 50 yards. The conditions were gusty wind. I tried to shoot between the gusts, as much as I could.





It was really gusty, but I managed to put one from most groups into the 10X. There is promise. I've not worked thru the possibilities. Some of the potential will be with stronger guns, I think. It's been one of those projects. When it reaps benefit, only then will it have seemed like a good idea. Until then, it might seem a waste of time. We'll see.



I tried the buckshot. Not bad.



Then I got into some of the default slugs, that have always been good in these guns. The Barnes 4 ring Wadcutter. This one weighs 70.9 grains. I had a tin of them, that I'd cast some time back.



They are really dialed in. They shoot about 716 fps. But, you see there, many people are not content there. And so I fiddle to see what else is around. The Pellets I've tried, have shot around 900 in the smaller guns, with the lightest pellets. But - so far, the accuracy and steady performance is where I developed it, six of seven years ago.



This is hard to argue with. It works with several of the families of 32 barrels that I've made.

Best,
Gary



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/15/2011 10:11PM by barnespneumatic.

Hi Gary,

This Victory pistol likes the round ball, but the 4 Ring WC are a perfect match. Excellent groups at 50 yards. Wow from a pistol! With those slugs this Victory should be close to 100 fpe.

Hello Julio,

Thanks for your comment.

I intended to note ... that 50 yard buckshot was the best one. Most were half again or twice that. We've never had rifle group accuracy, at rifle ranges, with a pistol and buckshot. But - it's pretty good for casual shooting.

The right slug at the right size, really tightened up the holes in the paper.

I'm not sure what top fpe would be. Shooting at 2,900 ... with the 70.9 grain ... @ about 716 fps ... came out about 80 foot pounds. That's pretty good for a light pistol / carbine PCP.

I know, I know ... you want one in 87 caliber ....

Gary

Gary,

I can't see the roundball magazine cap.




Lon

Thats realy nice groups Garry especialy from a pistol ( a nice looking pistol). I know how hard it can be to get such a short barreled gun to ballance and group off a single fill. Way to go. Danny.

Gary

You have been holding out. Using the outrigger to hold the pellets is a great idea. What type of scope are you using?

Oh ... .... you can't put pellets in yours. You are not officially liscensed to do so! hahaha. Hey - you are on your own to find a cork ... hahah.

I think the scope was made by Leapers, some time back. A small 30mm tube, with side adjust. It was given to me by a customer, so I can't mention that it's not clear around the edges, and very eye sensitive. You didn't hear it here. But; when you get it lined up .... it's nice and accurate. Especially with that Barnes Mono-pod mounting system!

Gary

Gary,

That's a great looking setup! The buck looks plenty accurate for some casual (no ties please) shooting. While the wadcutter slugs are very impressive indeed. I have to wonder if your mystery technique of sperisizing the ball was used here? I don't think you ever described the technique as it was deemed unnecessary with the Hornady (booo) buck.

Kent

very smart set up , great results

Gary,

That pistol is accurate!

70+ foot pound and that kind of accuracy, ye-owza!

Lon

Hi Lon,

Yeah ... well ... who'd counting but it's 70.9 grains. That's about 81 foot pounds. Not that I'm a power hawg or anything .... hehe

Gary

Wow, those 4 ring wadcutters really do the trick! Excellent groups, and from pistol
Cheers
Neil

Glad you like it. You too Lon,

Yeah ... get this story. We couldn't find the mold for those slugs. I had a big tin of those, that I remember casting. Well, Jerry didn't have the right one (at least he says he doesn't ... hahah).. Then, I recalled ... : I made a bullet mold for a customer, about a year to eighteen months ago. I proof cast it, and sent it out. I retain the machine cutter - what they call the "Cherry" for the mold. Story of my life. To make more slugs, I have to make another mold ... But, when they shoot that well, I think I'll have to do it.

Gary