The Hagan 46 Nitro Express had it's "First Fire" Celebration this evening.

The absolute first shot it ever took was over 490 foot pounds. The target FPE was 500 fpe. It's second shot taken, was 508 foot pounds of energy, by just adding 200 psi. It came in exactly where it was planned to shoot.









The Barnes K-8 slug on the scale.



The K-8 thru the Chrono.



The Barnes Bishop on the scale.



The Barnes Bishop thru the chrono.



The page in the shop ledger recording tonight's tests.

And ... the faint of heart don't look ..... repaired thumb follows. Jim ... you've seen this sort of thing before ... don't look Dude!











The repaired nasty cut across the side of my thumb tonight. Took some time to stop the bleeding. But - pressure and Super Glue ... and then an bit of external reinforcement of cotton string and super glue. I'm good to go ... and we got the gun tested tonight. Ya never quite know what the day is gonna bring. Best to know a few tricks to keep going. haha. Hey - Super Glue is used in the Hospital (Called Derma Bond and costs 100 times as much).







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Jeez . . . I thought we were done with those.

(That's you and Jerry carrying me out of the shop).

What . . . no pix or video of the smoke pouring out of the wound? That ought to get 'em all talking!!

Oh yeah . . . nice rifle too. That teaser shot of the bottom of the K8 on the scale will drive everyone nuts. I'm *sure* it wasn't purposefully framed like that.

-- Jim



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Gary,
Not only are you creative with the rifle designs, but you are just as creative with you "medical" care!
Cotton is not the best material to glue to a wound (risk of infection because the bacteria can grow in the fibers). I thought you had a first aid kit in the shop?

As for the gun, that is some serious energy!

Hello Scott,

Actually ... the super glue instantly saturates the fibers, turning it into a sort of fiberglass. Pertified - nothing is getting into that. Makes a hard shell cap over the wound that was sealed with superglue first. I can work in a dirty environment. I can scrub my hands with the usualy grit filled hand cleaner. No filthy bandaid every half an hour to change. Years of experience here. When the cap falls off in five days, the healed line WILL look like a plastic surgeon repaired it. Years of expereince ... haha .... spared no expense ... that IS my first aid kit.

Gary

at last ,,,, something your not good at , plastic surgery ,,, pammy anderson wont be signin up i fear
lol
as we say in these parts
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a sore fingers a sore thing
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but a sore thing isnt a sore finger ,lol

I once took care of a fellow who showed up in the ER with the meatgrinder still stuck on his hand...up to the elbow! Not a dermabond case.

A 45 ACP shooting 200 grain .452 bullets at 850 ft/sec ( john browning's original specs) generates 321 ft lbs at the muzzle. They fight wars with that thing.
The Nitro 46 packs a whollop! On air. Not bad for a bb gun.

Hugh

Hello Hugh,

I definitely defer to the experts on all meat grinder cases.

Glad you are pleased. It sure does pack a punch. I didn't shoot it more than 3 or 4 shots thru the muzzler. Without a stock, the action is quite a machine to hold onto. I better get to work on that handle for it. ;?)

Gary

Hugh,

One of my favorite calibers, good choice. Don't really have a reason why, it just is.

Gary,

OUCH!

Since Hugh (the owner of this pc. BTW)... mentioned A 45 ACP shooting 200 grain .452 bullets at 850 ft/sec ( john browning's original specs) generates 321 ft lbs at the muzzle. I recalled that I had the Barnes Raptor in 46 caliber. It comes in at about 227 grains.

I shot this test this morning for comparison. We're nearly 100 foot pounds beyond the orig. spec. for the 45 ACP here. More weight and faster.







Gary

Another interesting data point, per my MD Hunters Safety class last night: if you want to hunt deer with a handgun in MD, it (the gun, not the deer ) must make a minimum of 700 foot pounds of energy. Our instructor told us the minimum handgun that can do this is a .357 magnum, which has three available loads that he knows of that will create that much energy.

Just a little more info for comparison. It would be interesting to see if MD will ever open up a big bore season, as they continue to expand the existing seasons and available hunting areas for just about all game.

-- Jim

Interesting.

Thing is ... as soon as you ask, they'll want to tax it, and regulate it.

Gary

Perhaps . . . but wouldn't that be better than no season at all?

-- Jim

cool thumb foto !!!!


how did you hurt it?

as far as Dermabond goes, I should add that it is a pretty color, and stings less than regular cyanoacrylate...but it doesn't work as well- haha

Hello Doc,

I put that pic in for all of you doctors in the audience. Ah ... how did I hurt it? Being stupid. Isn't that the usual way? haha. I needed the barrel clamp completed to test Hugh's Nitro Express. There's a threaded machine screw thru the clamp. I usually thread the threaded side while it's still whole, and in the drill press. Then I cut it in half. Usually, the threaded portion has gone deep enough to be complete. This time, it required a few more threads to complete the threaded side.

I often use the taps in a cordless drill. For repeatative movements back and forth (like tapping) ... it works well. I just do some small stuff hand held, as it allows a bit of "give" and avoids some tool breakage. Well, as it would happen, it all went wrong ... the tap caught, the drill went too fast, and (like a viper) the half of the clamp spun around and struck me a couple of times before I could react. Oddly, it made a slice cut ... deep enough and long enough to probably need a couple of stitches.

Wasn't up for the five hour ordeal ... and I've had several decades of taking care of stuff like this ... "IF" there is no real damage to ligaments, etc. This was just a fleshy area. Pc. of cake. I have my thumb pad exposed for dexterity (rather than bandaged) ... and I can wash my hands the normal sixty times a day - scrubbing hard - and all's well. The hard cap is really about bullet proof. See .....

Hahah. I figured this would get far more play than the gun. But ... at least ... we have dialogue. haha.

Gary

Those are impressive figures. Hugh is a lucky man! Looking forward to seeing the completed item.....

Nice finger Gary

Cheers
Neil

Hello Neil,

Thanks. Yeah - I'm working on the stock. Will be good to get it to the field.

Right ... hey - the finger looks terrible when oversized like the pic. The skin looks like elephant skin or something. My hopes of becoming a hand model are fading.

Gary

ah, yes the old "helicopter clamp" fiasco!

it never happens when you are expecting it, only when there is "no way" for it to happen - hehe

that'll leave a nice chunk out, all right. Looks like a pretty good field dressing to me

Gee - thanks Doc!

Thats great Garry, to attain the target fpe first off.Looking forward to more posts on the progress of this gun.Danny.

Thanks much.

Gary

its amazing when you put the numbers into real comparisons ,,, and people still turn their noses up and tut , when they say airguns ,,,, tut m oops ,,,lol

This Nitro Expess is going to be another really nice piece and it's making Magnum power to boot.

I very rarely get people turning up their noses at airguns anymore. Maybe that's because the folks I talk to about them usually first ask me about them when they see a slug on my desk or my computer desktop or a target I've shot. I usually get a "Holy cow!" when I tell them the damage was done with an airgun and then they want to see more. Sometimes I get the "why air?" question but they generally understand the whole otu of the ordinary and collector/hobbiest thing.